they don't want to hold the full faith and credit of the united states hostage to cutting entitlements. that's just not a winning hand but there are other games they can play in the middle on that and i think that obama did at best a fairly good job today in countering that. >> rose: major? >> well, the president uses press conference primarily, charlie, to tell the republicans in the countries that's watching and the bond markets and financial markets all over the world that he is in an uncompromising moold as far as negotiating with republicans directly about whether the debt ceiling will or will not be raised. the president's position is a congressional obligation f congress wants to hand that authority over to him he will be glad to take it but congress needs to send him a debt ceiling increase. remember the debt sealing acording to the treasury department is due to run out to laps and we would approach a default position sometime in the middle of february, just next month. there is not a lot of time. now republicans have said and i asked the president about this you know, historic